Comments on: Scams and Cheats at oDesk http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/ Freelancing is more fun with oDesk Tue, 17 Jan 2012 05:09:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: William Morrison http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-749 William Morrison Thu, 24 Nov 2011 02:56:13 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-749 The original blog post was written more than three years ago. I've left up some comments so that others can see that the problem continues. However, I don't want the comments section to become a litany of woe about oDesk, nor a list of grievances. For that reason, I won't be approving any more comments that are simply complaints about others (clients or providers) on the system. Your recourse is to complain to oDesk directly. I hope you understand, Bill Morrison http://wmorrison.elance.com The original blog post was written more than three years ago. I’ve left up some comments so that others can see that the problem continues. However, I don’t want the comments section to become a litany of woe about oDesk, nor a list of grievances. For that reason, I won’t be approving any more comments that are simply complaints about others (clients or providers) on the system.

Your recourse is to complain to oDesk directly.

I hope you understand,
Bill Morrison
http://wmorrison.elance.com

]]> By: Marchy http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-748 Marchy Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:28:39 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-748 gDev FZ LLC is full of BS, they don't even respond to oDesk about why they haven't paid a contractor. If the work has been done, and there was an amount agreed upon, that amount should be paid. Furthermore, how in the hell does a company like this to continue to conduct business on a site that they ignore complaints from in regards to a lack of payment? gDev FZ LLC is full of BS, they don’t even respond to oDesk about why they haven’t paid a contractor. If the work has been done, and there was an amount agreed upon, that amount should be paid.

Furthermore, how in the hell does a company like this to continue to conduct business on a site that they ignore complaints from in regards to a lack of payment?

]]> By: Matt http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-747 Matt Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:40:11 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-747 We created a simple test that we get all developers to do. It's a basic problem that they have to complete under a set time before we even interview them. From the test, you can work out: - If they understand basic instructions - they have a good understanding of English - Have a basic knowledge - Can solve problems on the their feet. - Can gauge their coding skills (it's a basic test, but after doing enough find it's representative of a developers skills set) This is a BASIC problem that you should be able to read the problem and just answer it immediately and we would find 1 developer in 20 that can do the test with any sort of basic knowledge and speed. We only invite those developers to do the test that read well on their ODesk profiles and have decent feedback. We haven't had a bad developer since introducing this. Usually they leave after finding work for much greater money. We created a simple test that we get all developers to do.

It’s a basic problem that they have to complete under a set time before we even interview them.

From the test, you can work out:

- If they understand basic instructions
- they have a good understanding of English
- Have a basic knowledge
- Can solve problems on the their feet.
- Can gauge their coding skills (it’s a basic test, but after doing enough find it’s representative of a developers skills set)

This is a BASIC problem that you should be able to read the problem and just answer it immediately and we would find 1 developer in 20 that can do the test with any sort of basic knowledge and speed.

We only invite those developers to do the test that read well on their ODesk profiles and have decent feedback.

We haven’t had a bad developer since introducing this. Usually they leave after finding work for much greater money.

]]> By: Michael Joe http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-745 Michael Joe Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:21:08 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-745 oDesk is very good outsourcing site. very funny to work with talented developers oDesk is very good outsourcing site.

very funny to work with talented developers

]]> By: choun http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-744 choun Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:18:08 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-744 hi all developers . I have also gotten a scam from a India employer. he has offered me that our job should progress with fixed project, then after I have worked hardly for a week with this job, he has disappeared suddenly. he has gotten my binary file and then disappear :( very disappointed with India employers. This scam is not my first for me even on oDesk. then, these accidents for me have occurred with only India and singapor employers. so, I recommend that you guys shouldn't work with these employers. and fixed project is risk for developers like this. Good luck hi all developers
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I have also gotten a scam from a India employer.
he has offered me that our job should progress with fixed project, then after I have worked hardly for a week with this job, he has disappeared suddenly.

he has gotten my binary file and then disappear :(
very disappointed with India employers.
This scam is not my first for me even on oDesk.
then, these accidents for me have occurred with only India and singapor employers.
so, I recommend that you guys shouldn’t work with these employers.
and fixed project is risk for developers like this.
Good luck

]]> By: Xin Liang http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-742 Xin Liang Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:23:17 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-742 Hello all, I am developer, Xin Liang. I want to notice all facts with Praveen, so I write this comment here. firstly, He had cheat me that he was Arabic(United Emirates State) employer at first on oDesk.(I don' t like Indians), but he was Indian in fact. here, I have disappointed with him already. But, I have started to talk with him. He asked me that I should develop his app with $2000 for iPhone client and at that time his mock-up/wireframes for design was still not ready. firmnessly under this condition, he has told me his budget was limited up to $2000. so, I have completed the design for one module of his app with him for even 1month, but I haven't earned anything besides of $330 from him. I have lost a lot of time and cost by him. After I have completed first workflow of this app, I have realized that the cost of this app must be $5000 ~ $6000 at least.(at this point, I had feel that he cheat me again) there, I have disappointed with this job. so, I have given all refund to him back($480) and closed. that's all. then on this blog, he has written that he hasn't gotten any money even. I am very surprised with his shamelessness now. If you want to confirm all this fact, please contact with me(Skype id is xinliang_1111). I can show you all chatting history and refund transaction for his all budget on oDesk as soon. as this, he is cheater. now, I think that closing the working with him is very good fortune for me. In fact, I have worked for him over month, but I have given all money to him back($480). This tells that I am really honest developer. I hope that I won't meet with these employers(particularly India Employers) in the future. thanks all. Hello all,

I am developer, Xin Liang.
I want to notice all facts with Praveen, so I write this comment here.

firstly, He had cheat me that he was Arabic(United Emirates State) employer at first on oDesk.(I don’ t like Indians), but he was Indian in fact.
here, I have disappointed with him already.
But, I have started to talk with him. He asked me that I should develop his app with $2000 for iPhone client and at that time his mock-up/wireframes for design was still not ready.
firmnessly under this condition, he has told me his budget was limited up to $2000.
so, I have completed the design for one module of his app with him for even 1month, but I haven’t earned anything besides of $330 from him.
I have lost a lot of time and cost by him.

After I have completed first workflow of this app, I have realized that the cost of this app must be $5000 ~ $6000 at least.(at this point, I had feel that he cheat me again)
there, I have disappointed with this job.
so, I have given all refund to him back($480) and closed.

that’s all.

then on this blog, he has written that he hasn’t gotten any money even.

I am very surprised with his shamelessness now.

If you want to confirm all this fact, please contact with me(Skype id is xinliang_1111).
I can show you all chatting history and refund transaction for his all budget on oDesk as soon.

as this, he is cheater.

now, I think that closing the working with him is very good fortune for me.

In fact, I have worked for him over month, but I have given all money to him back($480).

This tells that I am really honest developer.

I hope that I won’t meet with these employers(particularly India Employers) in the future.

thanks all.

]]> By: Praveen http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-740 Praveen Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:41:31 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-740 Hello, I got scammed and I guess I should warn everybody about it! I started speaking to a Contractor named XinLiang for a company called Mobile panda! She told me she could do the job and after discussing the project for over a month, I hired her. After 2 weeks and after paying her $336, she comes back and says she misunderstood the project and that she wont work for the project any more cause she doesnt have time! She then proceeded to end the contract and not issue a refund. I lost $336! All the Odesk policies are for the benefit of the contractor and theres nothing for the employer. I love Elance. Go with them!They even charge way less! Hello,

I got scammed and I guess I should warn everybody about it! I started speaking to a Contractor named XinLiang for a company called Mobile panda! She told me she could do the job and after discussing the project for over a month, I hired her. After 2 weeks and after paying her $336, she comes back and says she misunderstood the project and that she wont work for the project any more cause she doesnt have time! She then proceeded to end the contract and not issue a refund. I lost $336! All the Odesk policies are for the benefit of the contractor and theres nothing for the employer.
I love Elance. Go with them!They even charge way less!

]]> By: jules http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-737 jules Wed, 05 Oct 2011 07:24:36 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-737 no. 10. LMFTitsOff no. 10. LMFTitsOff

]]> By: odickhds http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-724 odickhds Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:40:53 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-724 Odesk is THE biggest scam out there. They shape their entire system around protecting their incompetent contractors who would say and do anything to rip you off for a dolar. They can get f*&ked. The system works like this "an hour worked is an hour paid" to odesk that is. Yes you have to aprove the work diary but try and dispue the hours, they will charge you first before even investigating then come back and justify the contractor. The contractors all have an angle. They usually have all these jobs with great feedback but hire them and they are a pack of retards. They do a half arsed job at the best. I have had SEO guys giving examples then arguing for some heap of hours per week like they will deliver the world but are useless as tits on a bull. It is all bullshit and the odesk framework supports the scam so that they can get their 10%. The contractors from india will take a contract then you have different people using the same email and contract name, skype etc till you are so confused you dont know who you are talking to. Rather than do a hire on Odesk just go out in the shed and get a hammer, a nice big one, and start hitting yourself in the head real hard. That is preferable to dealing with these idiots. Better yet get a book and do it yourself at least you know whos responsible... Odesk is THE biggest scam out there. They shape their entire system around protecting their incompetent contractors who would say and do anything to rip you off for a dolar. They can get f*&ked.

The system works like this “an hour worked is an hour paid” to odesk that is. Yes you have to aprove the work diary but try and dispue the hours, they will charge you first before even investigating then come back and justify the contractor.

The contractors all have an angle. They usually have all these jobs with great feedback but hire them and they are a pack of retards. They do a half arsed job at the best.

I have had SEO guys giving examples then arguing for some heap of hours per week like they will deliver the world but are useless as tits on a bull.

It is all bullshit and the odesk framework supports the scam so that they can get their 10%.

The contractors from india will take a contract then you have different people using the same email and contract name, skype etc till you are so confused you dont know who you are talking to.

Rather than do a hire on Odesk just go out in the shed and get a hammer, a nice big one, and start hitting yourself in the head real hard.

That is preferable to dealing with these idiots.

Better yet get a book and do it yourself at least you know whos responsible…

]]> By: jkt903 http://odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/comment-page-1/#comment-683 jkt903 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:14:25 +0000 http://www.odeskinsider.com/blog/scams-and-cheats-at-odesk/#comment-683 It's a shame, that any service entended as something good for all involved, becomes a breeding ground for the scum of the world. Odesk is no different. While many of us, especailly in these hard economic times, are legitimately looking for employees or employers, those dirt bag few have left a bad taste in our mouths. The problem, as with any site such as this, is the verification process. There seems to be lacking a method to verify that those hiring and those seeking work are who and what they claim.. We must remember; "You can be whoever or whatever you want to be over the internet". To end the problems associated with this, sites like Odesk must find a better way to verify the credentials of those posting there. Online testing procedires do not work. Anyone can take the test, and none will be the wiser. I agree, that sometimes the wording of a posting will give a person away, but the scammers have gotten wiser to this by hiring others to write their posts for them. It's shame, but it's what the world of internet services has been reduced to. It’s a shame, that any service entended as something good for all involved, becomes a breeding ground for the scum of the world. Odesk is no different. While many of us, especailly in these hard economic times, are legitimately looking for employees or employers, those dirt bag few have left a bad taste in our mouths. The problem, as with any site such as this, is the verification process. There seems to be lacking a method to verify that those hiring and those seeking work are who and what they claim.. We must remember; “You can be whoever or whatever you want to be over the internet”. To end the problems associated with this, sites like Odesk must find a better way to verify the credentials of those posting there.
Online testing procedires do not work. Anyone can take the test, and none will be the wiser. I agree, that sometimes the wording of a posting will give a person away, but the scammers have gotten wiser to this by hiring others to write their posts for them. It’s shame, but it’s what the world of internet services has been reduced to.

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